Interview with Author Nadia Natali

Nadia Natali, author of the memoir, Stairway to Paradise: Growing Up Gershwin, published by Rare Bird, Los Angeles, 2015, and The Blue Heron Ranch Cookbook: Recipes and Stories from a Zen Retreat Center published by North Atlantic Books, Berkeley CA, 2008, is currently working on a second cookbook titled Zafu Kitchen Cookbook. 
Natali, a clinical psychotherapist and dance therapist, specializes in trauma release through somatic work. She earned a master’s degree from Hunter College in New York City in Dance/Movement Therapy and completed another masters degree in clinical psychology with an emphasis in somatic psychology at the Santa Barbara Graduate Institute. Nadia is a registered practitioner of Biodynamic Craniosacral Therapy (RCST) and is also a certified Somatic Experiencing Practitioner (SEP) who trained with Peter Levine.

DanceMedicine Workshops is Natali’s creation where participants move through their trauma with dialogue and dance. She also offers the Ojai community, DanceMedicine Journeys. In addition to her private practice, Nadia and her husband offer Zen Retreats at their center.

Born into a famous family that was riddled with dysfunction, Nadia Natali made the choice to turn her life inside out and step away from fame and fortune. Against her parents’ consent she married an artist and moved to the remote wilderness in California. It was there that she found grounding as she and her husband raised and homeschooled their three children and opened a retreat center. As she gathered her own momentum, she enrolled in a doctorate program finally becoming a clinical psychotherapist specializing in psychosomatic work. She and her husband live in Ojai California.



What’s inside the mind of a memoir author?                       

First, I believe one needs a theme, an intention to express a particular idea that develops over a lifetime. In my case I realized that my life was an unraveling of layers of hidden truths. Once I thought I had found it another level was crying to be excavated. I imagine all memoirs require a degree of authenticity where the readers feel that they are accessing their own voice as it appears through another.

What is so great about being an author?     

I do not think being an author per se is great, but I believe putting your all into any project brings on the same greatness, or a great sense of accomplishment.

When do you hate it?                        

The most difficult part for me is when I feel a dread in my belly as I’m writing and can’t figure what it is telling me about what I just wrote. I try to listen to these messages but sometimes I have trouble reading it.

What is a regular writing day like for you?             

It is usually inconsistent, in and out, up and down. I have spells of flow and then I usually stop and get back to it later.

How do you handle negative reviews?                     

So far I haven’t had the chance to read one. I am sure it would hurt inside and then I would manage it.

How do you handle positive reviews?          

 Get excited initially but it is very short lived.

What is the usual response when you tell a new acquaintance that you’re an author?

I don’t bring up that I have written a book unless there is a conversation that would naturally bring it up. I never say I am an author. I might mention I have written a memoir.

What do you do on those days you don’t feel like writing? Do you force it or take a break?

My days are multifaceted so I write whenever I feel like it.

Any writing quirks?                  

I like to drink tea and I like to have it nearby on my desk.

What would you do if people around you didn’t take your writing seriously or see it as a hobby?                       

I suppose I wouldn’t be around those people who didn’t take anything I did seriously.

Some authors seem to have a love-hate relationship to writing. Can you relate?   


Do you think success as an author must be linked to money?    

Not at all, but having funds to hire PR to help get your work published can be a benefit.

What has writing taught you?    

I have learned that the more I try the worse it is. I have to wait for the flow, so to speak, to come through me and just be available.

Leave us with some words of wisdom.

Writing is spontaneous and one cannot force the process. It arrives when it wants to and one has to have the intention to do it and be patient for it to show up.

About the Book:

Author: Nadia Natali
Publisher: RareBird Books
Pages: 304
Genre: Memoir


Growing up as Frankie Gershwin's daughter, the sister of George and Ira Gershwin, was quite a challenge. I didn't have the perspective to realize that so much unhappiness in a family was out of the ordinary. But I knew something was off. My mother was often depressed and my father was tyrannical and scary, one never knew when he would blow up. I learned early on that I had to be the cheery one, the one to fix the problems. Both sides of my family were famous; the Gershwin side and my father who invented color film. But even though there was more than enough recognition, money and parties I understood that wasn't what made people happy.

As a young adult adrift and depressed I broke from that unsatisfactory life by marrying Enrico Natali, a photographer, deeply immersed in his own questions about life. We moved into the wilderness away from what we considered as the dysfunction of society. That’s when we discovered that life had other kinds of challenges: flood, fire, rattlesnakes, mountain lions and bears. We lived in a teepee for more than four years while building a house. Curiously my mother never commented on my life choice. She must have realized on some level that her own life was less than satisfactory.

Enrico had developed a serious meditation practice that had become a kind of ground for him. As for me I danced. Understanding the somatic, the inner body experience, became my way to shift the inner story.

We raised and homeschooled our three children. I taught them to read, Enrico taught them math. The kids ran free, happy, always engaged, making things, and discovering. We were so sure we were doing the right thing. However, we didn't have a clue how they would make the transition to the so-called ‘real world’. The children thrived until they became teenagers. They then wanted out. Everything fell apart for them and for Enrico and me. Our lives were turned upside down, our paradise lost. There was tragedy: our son lost his life while attempting to cross our river during a fierce storm. Later I was further challenged by advanced breast cancer.

It was during these times that I delved deeply into the somatic recesses of myself. I began to find my own voice, a long learning process. I emerged with a profound trust in my own authority. It became clear that everyone has to find his or her way through layers of inauthenticity, where a deep knowing can develop. And I came to see that is the best anyone can offer to the world.

Enrico and I still live in the wilds of the Lost Padres National Forest, a paradise with many steps going up and down, a life I would not change.


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